The Spiro Podcast: Managing your Real Estate Photography & Videography Business

The Compliance Side of Real Estate Media No One Warned You About

Compliance can feel intimidating—but understanding it is becoming more important than ever for both agents and media companies. In this episode of the Spiro Podcast, Shannon Landers and Steve break down the major compliance topics that impact real estate media businesses today. From fair housing and MLS rules to branding, drone regulations, and the growing role AI plays in marketing content, they discuss practical ways media professionals can protect themselves while helping agents stay compliant. The conversation also explores why being “compliance aware” can actually become a competitive advantage and help build stronger relationships with brokerages and clients.
Chapter Timestamps
0:00 Episode Open & Introduction1:10 Shannon Introduces Steve & the Topic4:05 Why Compliance Matters in Real Estate Media8:00 The Risks of Ignoring Compliance13:40 The Four Buckets of Compliance14:00 Fair Housing Rules & Common Mistakes18:40 Marketing Language & Compliance Awareness23:45 MLS Rules, Branding, and Media Restrictions27:20 Drone Regulations & Part 107 Requirements34:10 AI, Editing, and Emerging Compliance Concerns41:50 Best Practices for Media Companies48:30 Final Thoughts & Why Compliance Awareness Matters
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Top Things to Remember During Busy Season

Busy season can be a great problem to have—but it also brings pressure, stress, and easy mistakes. In this episode of the Spiro Podcast, Shannon, Todd, and Craig break down the key things to keep in mind when business ramps up. From managing stress and leaning on your team to maintaining clear communication and not neglecting client acquisition, they walk through practical reminders that help you stay grounded and operate effectively. They also touch on making smart financial decisions during high-revenue periods and learning to let go of control so your team can step up. If you’re in the middle of a busy stretch—or preparing for one—this episode will help you handle it the right way.
Chapter Timestamps
0:00 Episode Open & Introduction1:05 Welcome to the Spiro Podcast2:30 Spiro Updates
5:10 Pt. 1 – Don’t Be Too Hard on Yourself10:20 Pt. 2 – You Have a Team—Use Them18:40 Pt. 3 – Closed Loop Communication26:15 Pt. 4 – Don’t Forget Client Acquisition34:05 Pt. 5 – Be Smart with Money During Busy Season41:50 Pt. 6 – Let Go of Control to Grow
50:30 Final Thoughts & Episode Wrap-Up
 
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Overcoming Objections: Turning a "No" Into Next Steps

Objections are part of every sales conversation, but how you handle them can make or break your business. In this episode of the Spiro Podcast, Todd and Craig break down the most common objections real estate media professionals face and how to respond to them with confidence. From pricing pushback to hesitation around value, they share practical ways to reframe conversations, build trust, and position your services more effectively. If you’ve ever felt caught off guard or unsure what to say in the moment, this episode will give you a clearer path forward.
 
Chapter Timestamps
0:00 Episode Open & Introduction1:05 Welcome to the Spiro Podcast2:30 Spiro Updates5:10 Why Objections Happen10:40 The Most Common Client Objections18:20 Handling Pricing Pushback26:05 Communicating Value More Clearly34:15 Reframing the Conversation42:30 Building Confidence in Sales Conversations50:10 Final Thoughts & Episode Wrap-Up
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Create AI Workflows that Work for Your Business

AI is only as powerful as the workflows behind it. In this episode of the Spiro Podcast, Todd and Craig welcome Matt Gia, Founder of AutoHDR, to break down how to actually implement AI in a way that improves your business—not complicates it. The conversation focuses on building practical, repeatable AI workflows that save time, increase consistency, and support growth. From identifying where AI fits into your process to avoiding common pitfalls, Matt shares how media businesses can use automation intentionally to create real efficiency. If you’ve been curious about AI but aren’t sure how to apply it, this episode will help you turn ideas into systems that actually work.
Chapter Timestamps
0:00 Episode Open & Introduction1:05 Todd and Craig Welcome Matt Gia (AutoHDR)2:40 Spiro Updates5:15 What AI Actually Means for Media Businesses10:30 Building AI Workflows That Save Time18:20 Where AI Fits Into Your Current Process26:10 Avoiding Overcomplication with Automation34:25 Creating Consistency Through AI Systems42:40 Practical Use Cases for AI in Media50:10 Final Thoughts & Episode Wrap-Up
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AutoHDR: https://www.autohdr.com

Avoiding Burnout - Clay Whisler

What if your business actually supported your life instead of running it? In this episode of the Spiro Podcast, Craig and Todd are joined by Clay Whisler to talk about building a real estate media business with intention. Clay shares his approach to structuring his business around his personal goals, creating systems that reduce stress, and making decisions that prioritize long-term sustainability over short-term hustle. The conversation dives into boundaries, workflow design, and how to avoid burnout while still growing. If you’re looking to build a business that gives you more freedom—not less—this episode will help you rethink how you operate.
Chapter Timestamps
0:00 Episode Open & Introduction1:10 Welcome to the Spiro Podcast2:30 Spiro Updates5:00 Introducing Clay Whisler8:15 Building a Business Around Your Life15:40 Setting Boundaries and Avoiding Burnout23:20 Designing Workflows That Reduce Stress31:45 Growth Without Sacrificing Freedom40:10 Long-Term Thinking vs Short-Term Hustle48:30 Final Thoughts & Episode Wrap-Up
 
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Airbnb vs Residential Listings – JD Surrett

Airbnb is opening up a whole new lane for real estate media businesses—but most people aren’t fully tapping into it yet. In this episode of the Spiro Podcast, Craig and Shannon Landers break down how short-term rentals are changing the landscape and where media professionals can step in to provide real value. From understanding what Airbnb hosts actually need to positioning your services differently than traditional real estate shoots, they explore how to create new revenue streams and stand out in a growing market. If you’re looking for ways to expand your business beyond standard listings, this episode will help you start thinking differently.
Chapter Timestamps
0:00 Episode Open & Introduction1:10 Welcome with Craig and Shannon2:30 Spiro Updates5:00 Why Airbnb Is a Growing Opportunity10:40 How Airbnb Content Differs from Listing Media18:20 What Airbnb Hosts Actually Need26:15 Positioning Your Services for Short-Term Rentals34:30 Pricing, Packages, and Value42:10 Getting Your First Airbnb Clients49:30 Final Thoughts & Episode Wrap-Up
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Overcoming Imposter Syndrome - Chris Thompson

Imposter syndrome shows up for almost everyone—but in a growing real estate media business, it can quietly hold you back from charging what you're worth, putting yourself out there, or taking the next step. In this episode of the Spiro Podcast, Todd and Craig break down what imposter syndrome actually looks like in day-to-day business, why it happens, and how to move through it. From mindset shifts to practical actions, they share ways to build confidence, take ownership of your value, and stop letting self-doubt dictate your growth. If you've ever questioned whether you're “good enough,” this episode is for you.
Chapter Timestamps
0:00 Episode Open & Topic Introduction1:20 Welcome to the Spiro Podcast2:45 Spiro Updates5:10 What Is Imposter Syndrome?9:30 How It Shows Up in Real Estate Media16:40 Charging Your Worth & Confidence Gaps24:15 Comparing Yourself to Others31:50 Practical Ways to Overcome It40:10 Building Confidence Through Action48:30 Final Thoughts & Episode Wrap-Up
Chris Thompson@cstmediaproductions
https://www.cstmediaproductions.com
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How to Get Two Brokerage Presentations a Month - Nick Narodny from TITUS

Nick Narodny of TITUS joins Todd this week on the Spiro Podcast. He'll be sharing the presentation he gave at the January 2026 Spiro Sync Conference on how to get two brokerage presentations a month to grow your business.
Chapter Timestamps:
0:00 Episode Open
01:30 Spiro Updates
03:28 Nick Narodny/TITUS Introduction
07:58 Getting Two Brokerage Presentations a Month
41:06 Episode Wrap-up